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Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« on: September 30, 2011, 09:05:11 AM »
The following is from today's paper version of The Washington Post. I found it alarming  *sn* but not surprising.
 
Facebook tracking prompts calls for FTC investigation

By Dina ElBoghdady and Hayley Tsukayama
Published: September 29, 2011

"Facebook’s use of software that enables it to track users’ online activity after they log off of the social-networking site came under scrutiny in Washington this week, with lawmakers and consumer advocacy groups demanding a federal investigation.

In a letter to the Federal Trade Commission, Reps. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) and Joe Barton (R-Tex.) wrote that Facebook’s use of “cookie” software should be investigated under the “unfair and deceptive acts” clause of the agency’s mandate.

“When people log out of Facebook, they are under the expectation that Facebook is no longer monitoring their activities,” wrote the congressmen, who chair the bipartisan Congressional Privacy Caucus. “We believe this impression should be the reality.”

On Thursday, the Electronic Privacy Information Center and nine other consumer and privacy groups made a similar request, voicing concerns about whether the company’s privacy policies cover new Facebook features that highlight user information on profiles and put real-time activity in the spotlight.
 
The FTC declined to comment on whether it plans to investigate. But the calls for action add to growing criticism of the world’s largest social-networking site and the privacy policies that apply to its 800 million users worldwide.

The cookie-tracking issue was thrust into the spotlight when self-proclaimed Australian hacker Nik Cubrilovic looked into Facebook’s code and discovered that the network was apparently tracking users’ Web consumption after they logged off. He posted this discovery on his blog Sunday.

Cubrilovic said Facebook responded to his concerns, explaining that the company has cookies that persist after log-out to identify outside parties who try to access a user’s account.

As furor built, the Facebook engineer who works on these systems issued a statement acknowledging that Facebook, like other Internet sites that personalize content, uses cookies. The engineer, Gregg Stefancik, said three of these cookies on some users’ computers “included unique identifiers when the user had logged out of Facebook.”

“However, we did not store these identifiers for logged-out users. Therefore, we could not have used this information for tracking or any other purpose,” Stefancik said.

Facebook said the issue has been fixed so the cookies would not retain the identifiers. (The Washington Post Co.’s chairman and chief executive, Donald E. Graham, is a member of Facebook’s board of directors.)

But the letter from EPIC, signed by the American Civil Liberties Union and Consumer Watchdog, raised further issues about Facebook’s new “frictionless sharing” features, which allow applications to post user activity in real time, without requiring permission from account holders for each update. The apps require users to grant permission once to generate updates — when they add an app. Users have the ability to change these settings at any time.

Some apps are already using the new platform, flooding users’ real-time feeds with information on what their friends are reading and listening to through the site.
 
The groups also raised concerns about the Facebook “Timeline,” or revamped profile, which collects a user’s information on Facebook into a scrapbook-like page, giving anyone who views the page an at-a-glance summary of a user’s entire life." *sn*

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 11:04:32 AM »
Here's more about putting your personal information on Facebook.

Do you agree with what this woman wrote -- especially the parts I've put in bold?

Timeline Keeps Facebook Ticking

The new Facebook: The times of our lives
By Melissa Bell, Published: January 6, 2012

Nobody likes change, but I’d argue I like it least of all. When my mother forced me to replace the carpet in my childhood bedroom that doubled as my sibling’s playroom, after weeks of tantrums, she made a deal: I could chose my favorite stain on the floor and keep that square of carpet. (I opted for the spilled chocolate ice cream from my birthday party.) So I understand all too well the hue and cry from Facebook users every time the behemoth company alters its site.

“Death by a thousand cuts,” I’d mutter after a small tweak removed the “poke” button or added lists or created some other site alteration. I told people that if it weren’t my job to cover social media, I’d ditch Facebook entirely. Too many privacy issues. Too many instances when the company seemed to pander to advertisers rather than users.

But the latest improvement — and its most dramatic — has bowled me a googly. The Facebook Timeline is not just a great product, it’s a savvy business move.

Technology companies — like many businesses — can get trapped by success. As Coca-Cola discovered in the infamous New Coke debacle, customers want a beloved product to stay the same. But with technology improving at mach speed, companies that don’t move as quickly end up in the drawer with MySpace. Many of the most successful tech companies (see Google), combat this issue by delving into new products. Facebook, though, reinvented its product.
 
Facebook Timeline works on all levels: for advertisers, for users and for Facebook. The Timeline has been slowly rolling out for the 800 million users over the past few weeks. It’s a redesign of the Facebook user page, a section of the site few people likely visit, unless you are stalking your ex. This may change with the Timeline.

Like the MySpace predecessor, it gives us a much more personalized presentation of information, with a large photograph at top and then exactly what its name says: a timeline of all your Facebook updates. Users can fill in missing moments from birth until present day. My friends, for instance, have since the release of the Timeline been adding those monumental occasions — weddings, births, jobs, many from pre-Facebook days.

Job coaches are recommending that prospective employees use it as the new résumé. That’s where the benefit to advertisers comes in: Facebook will have even more personal information to better hone targeted ads.

But unlike past changes to the site, Facebook is also providing a user-oriented product. It turns the basic premise of social media inside out: Rather than having ephemeral, instant conversation snippets that get lost in the Internet vortex, the Timeline creates a scrapbook of your Facebook experience. It compiles much of the work you’ve put into Facebook and offers it to you in a searchable way.

You can zone in on a year or a month to find exactly what you were doing in, say December 2008 (I was crowing over my dad’s karaoke rendition of “It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World”). It may seem like mundane stuff, but when I first got the Timeline, I spent nearly four hours on it, rereading the story of my time on the site and remembering the small moments that I chose to share with my friends. I removed a couple of posts along the way (mainly ones that predated my parents on Facebook and some that made me sound a bit too morose for public consumption).
 
In its own ironic way, the redesign acknowledges that Facebook saves much of your data, even after you click that delete button. Perhaps that’s exactly why I like it: Facebook is offering us back our past, ice cream stains and all.

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2012, 10:01:32 PM »
I'm a facebook User, but post very little about my day to day activities. I've never understood why some people post all the mundane stuff that's going on in their lives. That and the ones who are constantly posting utube music videos. What's that all about?  :1:

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 08:02:49 PM »
Most FB'ers are into music..New at this aren't you? You also need to go into your privacy settings and adjust them to your liking and your email address etc..

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 08:45:36 PM »
Most FB'ers are into music..New at this aren't you? You also need to go into your privacy settings and adjust them to your liking and your email address etc..


I'm into all kinds of music, but I don't feel a need to post a stream of utube videos of what I listen to. No offense, if that's what you're into.  :1:

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2012, 11:00:40 PM »
I have a FaceBook page.
I check it every couple of years.


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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 11:05:45 PM »
I have a  FB pg also...I am not on everyday though..people are saying that FB is replacing the forums...I hope not..

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 11:20:19 PM »
Some people are fanatical in their support for George Washington.
They practically worship at "Mount Vernon".

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 07:18:20 PM »
Twitter is better but I do have a facebook page.

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 09:38:14 AM »
Your life is going to be an open book. Read what I just posted about google.

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 08:48:05 AM »
I also wonder about people who go on facebook and post every aspect of their lives. These are the people I was talking about that have no life except for their electronic doodads. They post things looking for combacks by people who give them satisfaction that their foolishness is being read. Me I laugh at these jerks.

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 11:21:19 AM »
facebook provides an outlet for social engagement. It is very popular for those wanting a life when location and lonliness are prevalant

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Re: Is Facebook Tracking You After You Log Off?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 06:44:50 PM »
Be careful what you share on Facebook. Once it's out there ....  *sn* Some employers are asking potential new hires for their Facebook passwords.  I would say, from personal experience, that we need to be careful what we put out there about ourselves anywhere on line. The following is from today's Washington Post:

Senators Want Feds to Look Into Employers Asking for Facebook Passwords During Job Interviews

By Associated Press, Published: March 25, 2012

SEATTLE — Two U.S. senators are asking Attorney General Eric Holder to investigate whether employers asking for Facebook passwords during job interviews are violating federal law, their offices announced Sunday.

Troubled by reports of the practice, Democratic Sens. Chuck Schumer of New York and Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut said they are calling on the Department of Justice and the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to launch investigations. The senators are sending letters to the heads of the agencies.

The Associated Press reported last week that some private and public agencies around the country are asking job seekers for their social media credentials. The practice has alarmed privacy advocates, but the legality of it remains murky.

On Friday, Facebook warned employers not to ask job applicants for their passwords to the site so they can poke around on their profiles. The company threatened legal action against applications that violate its long-standing policy against sharing passwords.

A Facebook executive cautioned that if an employer discovers that a job applicant is a member of a protected group, the employer may be vulnerable to claims of discrimination if it doesn’t hire that person.

Personal information such as gender, race, religion and age are often displayed on a Facebook profile — all details that are protected by federal employment law.

“We don’t think employers should be asking prospective employees to provide their passwords because we don’t think it’s the right thing to do. While we do not have any immediate plans to take legal action against any specific employers, we look forward to engaging with policy makers and other stakeholders, to help better safeguard the privacy of our users,” Facebook said in a statement.

Not sharing passwords is a basic tenet of online conduct. Aside from the privacy concerns, Facebook considers the practice a security risk.

“In an age where more and more of our personal information — and our private social interactions — are online, it is vital that all individuals be allowed to determine for themselves what personal information they want to make public and protect personal information from their would-be employers. This is especially important during the job-seeking process, when all the power is on one side of the fence,” Schumer said in a statement.

Specifically, the senators want to know if this practice violates the Stored Communications Act or the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Those two acts, respectively, prohibit intentional access to electronic information without authorization and intentional access to a computer without authorization to obtain information.

The senators also want to know whether two court cases relating to supervisors asking current employees for social media credentials could be applied to job applicants.

“I think it’s going to take some years for courts to decide whether Americans in the digital age have the same privacy rights” as previous generations, American Civil Liberties Union attorney Catherine Crump said in a previous interview with the AP.

The senators also said they are drafting a bill to fill in any gaps that current laws don’t cover.

Maryland and Illinois are considering bills that would bar public agencies for asking for this information.

In California, Democratic Sen. Leland Yee introduced a bill that would prohibit employers from asking current employees or job applicants for their social media user names or passwords. That state measure also would bar employers from requiring access to employees’ and applicants’ social media content, to prevent employers from requiring logins or printouts of that content for their review.

In Massachusetts, state Democratic Rep. Cheryl Coakly-Rivera also filed a similar bill Friday that also expands to include personal email. Her measure also bars employers from “friending” a job applicant to view protected Facebook profiles or using similar methods for other protected social media websites.
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Manuel Valdes can be reached at https://twitter.com/ByManuelValdes.
Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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