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A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« on: October 29, 2011, 10:58:27 AM »

The following, which I find very interesting and thought-provoking, is from today's Washington Post:

ON FAITH

A Buddhist Considers the Death Penalty

by Losang Tendrol
Wednesday, Oct 26, 2011
 
A Buddhist considers the death penalty

On Sept. 28, Florida executed Manuel Valle after he had spent 33 years on death row. On Sept. 21, Georgia took Troy Davis’s life, despite a lack of evidence proving his guilt. On the same day, white supremacist Lawrence Brewer was killed by lethal injection by the state of Texas, despite the victim’s family’s request to the district attorney not to seek the death penalty.

According to Buddhism, everything that happens in our lives is the result of causes and conditions. Nothing happens at random. By not committing any of the five nonvirtuous actions (killing, lying, stealing, sexual misconduct, taking intoxicants), we ensure that we are not victims of murder, theft, etc. Likewise, when we do experience such misfortune, we recognize that the situations arise because of similar actions we committed in the past.

We bear full responsibility for our present and future lives, both for the positive and negative experiences.
In the words of a great Tibetan scholar, Sakya Pandita, “Howsoever anyone breaks the law, they may win for a while, but in the end, they lose.”
 
Karma, the law of cause and effect, is not subject to the legal system. As such, the death penalty is unnecessary because the person who commits murder will suffer the karmic consequences.
 
The late Tibetan Buddhist meditator Geshe Yeshe Tobden, who spent time in Chinese prisons, wrote about people who harm us: “They do not behave this way . . . as a result of free choice, and it is unreasonable to be angry with them. We should try instead to feel compassion . . . because they are under the influence of mental afflictions, of wrong conceptions, and of negative emotions that drive them to kill themselves or harm others.”
 
One of the defining scholars of Buddhism, Nagarjuna, wrote to a king: “Especially generate compassion for those whose ill deeds are horrible.”
 
Punishment should be carried out with compassion, not for retribution, since it is another name for “revenge, which implies the action is done with anger and therefore would burden the executioner with hatred and its resultant poor karma.”

The Dalai Lama signed Amnesty International’s pledge against the death penalty several years ago. He opposes the death sentence because it punishes the person and not the action.

Buddhism does allow ending the life of another when it is done in self-defense, and it could be argued that capital punishment could sometimes be seen as a society’s attempt at self-defense. But when other means are available, it would seem that the less lethal option should be favored.

Countering violence with violence only results in more violence.
 
Losang Tendrol is a nun in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition. She teaches meditation and Buddhism at the Guhyasamaja Buddhist Center in Reston.

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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 08:35:56 PM »
Wouldn't execution, according to their beliefs, be a result of karma for the murderer whose being executed?

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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 04:43:19 PM »
No, the way I understand it (and I'm not the expert), having to be born again, maybe at a lower status, is the punishment. Kinda similar to the Christian hell, maybe. Instead of burning, you keep coming back until you get it right. Like my old friend the lawyer who lived in Bluefield said, not long before he passed away, "I don't want to come back as a cockroach!" (Dark humor from a really nice man with a great sense of humor.)

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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2012, 09:32:12 AM »
Libby, this is why you cant believe anything in the Washington Post. " On Sept. 21, Georgia took Troy Davis’s life, despite a lack of evidence proving his guilt." Gosh, I hope you dont buy this.

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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2012, 07:03:27 PM »
 
Libby, this is why you cant believe anything in the Washington Post. " On Sept. 21, Georgia took Troy Davis’s life, despite a lack of evidence proving his guilt." Gosh, I hope you dont buy this.


*stars& Don't buy what? That he was executed (he was). That he was innocent (or not)? That you will use any excuse to badmouth liberals and the Washington Post? (absolutely)
 
I posted the article because of the subject, Buddhism and the death penalty, not to argue about what is a done deal. The man is dead and gone.

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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2012, 07:30:43 PM »
 " On Sept. 21, Georgia took Troy Davis’s life, despite a lack of evidence proving his guilt."

Only in the WaPo. Maybe thats why liberals are in the dark about so many topics.

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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2012, 07:48:27 PM »
" On Sept. 21, Georgia took Troy Davis’s life, despite a lack of evidence proving his guilt."

Only in the WaPo. Maybe thats why liberals are in the dark about so many topics.

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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2012, 11:24:29 PM »
Isn't the BORG made up of republicans? *lol*

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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 04:05:59 AM »
WVaGal,
What do you think the "R" in BORG stands for?


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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 10:45:34 AM »
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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 01:40:43 PM »
Libby, this is why you cant believe anything in the Washington Post. " On Sept. 21, Georgia took Troy Davis’s life, despite a lack of evidence proving his guilt." Gosh, I hope you dont buy this.


*stars& Don't buy what? That he was executed (he was). That he was innocent (or not)? That you will use any excuse to badmouth liberals and the Washington Post? (absolutely)
 
I posted the article because of the subject, Buddhism and the death penalty, not to argue about what is a done deal. The man is dead and gone.

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Whether he was innocent or not.

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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2012, 05:02:10 PM »
I'd say that Tony was offended by the statement in the story doubting the man's guilt. That's the kind of slanted journalism that makes the Post and NY Times lack credibility in whatever they print. I find it quite ironic that liberals constantly trash Fox News, yet read those two which are just as bad, if not worse.

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Re: A Buddhist considers the Death Penalty
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2012, 10:58:12 PM »
Was Troy Davis the one who was convicted without ANY forensic evidence and only the eyewitness testimony of a single witness who initially told the police he didn't see the face of the perpetrator?
(Information that was withheld from the jury.)
If so, I would call that "a lack of evidence" of his guilt.


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