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Bob Jones University....the bastion of hatred
« on: February 01, 2007, 05:05:24 AM »
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Bush may have found his ace. He kicked off his homestretch drive in South Carolina by speaking at Bob Jones University. Bob Jones represents one of Reagan's early signs of being antiblack. Reagan fought to revoke the Internal Revenue Service's authority to deny charitable tax exemptions to the school. The denial was over the school's ban on interracial dating.

The Supreme Court, in an 8-1 decision, rebuked Reagan, saying schools that practice racial segregation can indeed be denied tax exemptions. Reagan would later appoint the lone dissenter, William Rehnquist, to chief justice.

Bob Jones University still bans interracial dating. George W.'s brother Jeb, the Florida governor who is married to a Latina, could not have graduated. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, who has a white wife and who was appointed by George W.'s father, could not have graduated.

Bob Jones also practices homophobia. Two years ago, when a gay, 60-year-old alum asked if he could come back to visit the school, the dean of students wrote back, ''With grief we must tell you that as long as you are living as a homosexual, you, of course, would not be welcome on the campus and would be arrested for trespassing if you did. We take no delight in that action. Our greatest delight would be in your return to the Lord.''

George W. took delight in validating this perverted version of Christianity, telling 6,000 students, almost all white, ''I look forward to publicly defending our conservative philosophy.'' He said he would seek ''compassionate results.'' But compassion could not have been foremost on Bush's mind, since it was only after the speech that he criticized the school's racial policies, not during it and not directly to the students.

His compassion is irrelevant when out of all the colleges in South Carolina, he chose the most racist and homophobic, a venue more discriminatory on paper than even the Neshoba County Fair. Speaking of papers, Bush's appearance was so outrageous newspaper and television reporters should hound him as to how he deserves the White House when he panders to such base thinking.

While many editorials have dutifully questioned the appearance, subsequent news coverage has made little mention of Bob Jones and certainly not enough to suggest this was a deep, permanent stain. Like Reagan and the Urban League, Bush is smart enough to sprinkle just enough pepper in his white sauce, such as photo-ops with black children, to keep the hounds at bay.

Reagan told the Urban League he was not a caricatured conservative. In the end, he became the caricature of modern racism. Today we have Bush, who coined the term ''compassionate conservatism.'' By going to Bob Jones, Bush showed that he will be so compassionate to conservatives he will be every bit as antipoor, antiblack, and antidisadvantaged as Reagan was.

Having earned his masters in Reagan race policy, by speaking at Bob Jones University George W. Bush is well on his way to his PhD: philosopher of demagoguery.


Kinda explains the old philosophies of one of its graduates on here...and the more we know about the educational backgrounds, the better we know to understand the basis of the hatred and anger which is this poster's trademark.

Nice to see where you come from, RC.  Not what I'd call Christian at all.....you definitely are the dominionist of the political, not Christian, right.

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Re: Bob Jones University....the bastion of hatred
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2007, 06:44:18 AM »
That article is 7 years old. BJU began admitting blacks in 1971 due to a court ruling.

"Despite its history on racial issues, BJU today has a student body that includes many international and minority students and a number of interracial couples, including members of the faculty and staff. The University has also "established two 501(c)(3) charitable organizations to provide scholarship assistance solely for minority students."

From their website, here is their mission statement. If you don't agree with it, then you don't apply. Ad hominen arguments are logical fallicies. And personally, I find them offensive. I know everyone has a great deal of fun flaming RC but since this is the internet, we don't really know him. I think it's a stretch to say he is "full of hatred."

"University Mission and Philosophy

Mission Statement
Within the cultural and academic soil of liberal arts education, Bob Jones University exists to grow Christlike character that is Scripturally disciplined; others-serving; God-loving; Christ-proclaiming; and focused Above.

Philosophy
Bob Jones University exists as a training center for Christians from around the world. The goal of the administration, faculty, and staff is to equip its students for a lifetime of service to Christ. While the majority of Bob Jones University students enter Christian ministries upon graduation, a large number also become professionals in such secular fields as higher education, medicine, law, and business. Whatever field of study our students choose, they are taught the importance of having Christ at the center of their lives. Biblical values are integrated in every classroom and every other part of the educational process.

The University gives special emphasis to studies in Bible, church administration, missions, pastoral training, theology, history, education, ancient and modern languages, public speaking, drama, music, and literature. Every student enrolled in the University takes a Bible course each semester. This emphasis is rooted in the University’s adherence to the Bible as mankind’s only source of faith and Christian practice. Christian professors and staff members encourage students by precept and example to a lifelong commitment to learning, teaching, and exemplifying spiritual truths. The founder's philosophy that BJU is not here just to teach men and women how to make a living, but more importantly, how to live, remains our focus.

Bob Jones University seeks to maintain high academic standards, an emphasis on culture, and a practical Christian philosophy that is both orthodox and fervent in its evangelistic spirit. Relying upon the strength of God, Bob Jones University continuously strives to be the best school it can be, to the honor and glory of Christ."

 


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Re: Bob Jones University....the bastion of hatred
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2007, 07:52:43 AM »
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Bush may have found his ace. He kicked off his homestretch drive in South Carolina by speaking at Bob Jones University. Bob Jones represents one of Reagan's early signs of being antiblack. Reagan fought to revoke the Internal Revenue Service's authority to deny charitable tax exemptions to the school. The denial was over the school's ban on interracial dating.


The Supreme Court, in an 8-1 decision, rebuked Reagan, saying schools that practice racial segregation can indeed be denied tax exemptions. Reagan would later appoint the lone dissenter, William Rehnquist, to chief justice.


Bob Jones University still bans interracial dating. George W.'s brother Jeb, the Florida governor who is married to a Latina, could not have graduated. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, who has a white wife and who was appointed by George W.'s father, could not have graduated.


Bob Jones also practices homophobia. Two years ago, when a gay, 60-year-old alum asked if he could come back to visit the school, the dean of students wrote back, ''With grief we must tell you that as long as you are living as a homosexual, you, of course, would not be welcome on the campus and would be arrested for trespassing if you did. We take no delight in that action. Our greatest delight would be in your return to the Lord.''


George W. took delight in validating this perverted version of Christianity, telling 6,000 students, almost all white, ''I look forward to publicly defending our conservative philosophy.'' He said he would seek ''compassionate results.'' But compassion could not have been foremost on Bush's mind, since it was only after the speech that he criticized the school's racial policies, not during it and not directly to the students.



If it weren't for federally mandated laws of integration and for laws against racial discrimination, and the hunger for federal dollars BJU wants, this university would not have changted its bigoted and racist status. 

Dominionism at its finest.[b


Let's see, RC, you graduated under the old rules for the school, didn't you?  The bigoted, hatred and homophobic days?  The days when Bush proudly defended the "pervedrted" school?

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Re: Bob Jones University....the bastion of hatred
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2007, 08:02:18 AM »
So the article is 7 years old.......they still don't let homosexuals on campus.  Great christian tolerance there.  The same lack of tolerance RWC shows.

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2007, 08:09:07 AM »
Annie....you spin faster than Rove...and that's quite a speed!!!!

Provide something more recent....

Yeah.....like you would....

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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2007, 08:37:44 AM »
Annie....you spin faster than Rove...and that's quite a speed!!!!

Provide something more recent....

Yeah.....like you would....

All she printed was the schools mission statement...they forgot to put in there...hate homosexuals, blacks, and catholics.

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Re: Bob Jones University....the bastion of hatred
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2007, 09:16:07 AM »
She's right, that they started admitting blacks in the seventies...amid, as I recall, an IRS suit and federal sanctions.

It wasnt, however, until Bush was running for his first term and got flack for going there, that they allowed interracial dating among their students.

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Re: Bob Jones University....the bastion of hatred
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2007, 09:20:39 AM »
She's right, that they started admitting blacks in the seventies...amid, as I recall, an IRS suit and federal sanctions.

It wasnt, however, until Bush was running for his first term and got flack for going there, that they allowed interracial dating among their students.


So Gryphon, are you saying that under federal mandates and political pressure, this hate group conforms to political demands and worships the Bush man who is their god king? :roflmao: :sneeky: :thumps:

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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2007, 09:22:27 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2007, 03:52:41 PM »
That article is 7 years old. BJU began admitting blacks in 1971 due to a court ruling.

"Despite its history on racial issues, BJU today has a student body that includes many international and minority students and a number of interracial couples, including members of the faculty and staff. The University has also "established two 501(c)(3) charitable organizations to provide scholarship assistance solely for minority students."

From their website, here is their mission statement. If you don't agree with it, then you don't apply. Ad hominen arguments are logical fallicies. And personally, I find them offensive. I know everyone has a great deal of fun flaming RC but since this is the internet, we don't really know him. I think it's a stretch to say he is "full of hatred."

"University Mission and Philosophy

Mission Statement
Within the cultural and academic soil of liberal arts education, Bob Jones University exists to grow Christlike character that is Scripturally disciplined; others-serving; God-loving; Christ-proclaiming; and focused Above.

Philosophy
Bob Jones University exists as a training center for Christians from around the world. The goal of the administration, faculty, and staff is to equip its students for a lifetime of service to Christ. While the majority of Bob Jones University students enter Christian ministries upon graduation, a large number also become professionals in such secular fields as higher education, medicine, law, and business. Whatever field of study our students choose, they are taught the importance of having Christ at the center of their lives. Biblical values are integrated in every classroom and every other part of the educational process.

The University gives special emphasis to studies in Bible, church administration, missions, pastoral training, theology, history, education, ancient and modern languages, public speaking, drama, music, and literature. Every student enrolled in the University takes a Bible course each semester. This emphasis is rooted in the University’s adherence to the Bible as mankind’s only source of faith and Christian practice. Christian professors and staff members encourage students by precept and example to a lifelong commitment to learning, teaching, and exemplifying spiritual truths. The founder's philosophy that BJU is not here just to teach men and women how to make a living, but more importantly, how to live, remains our focus.

Bob Jones University seeks to maintain high academic standards, an emphasis on culture, and a practical Christian philosophy that is both orthodox and fervent in its evangelistic spirit. Relying upon the strength of God, Bob Jones University continuously strives to be the best school it can be, to the honor and glory of Christ."

 



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Re: Bob Jones University....the bastion of hatred
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2007, 04:03:59 PM »
Thank you Annie?  ROFLMAO!!!!

You're as selective on what you read as you are on your choices in bigotry and hatred....

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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2007, 04:04:43 PM »
That article is 7 years old. BJU began admitting blacks in 1971 due to a court ruling.

"Despite its history on racial issues, BJU today has a student body that includes many international and minority students and a number of interracial couples, including members of the faculty and staff. The University has also "established two 501(c)(3) charitable organizations to provide scholarship assistance solely for minority students."

From their website, here is their mission statement. If you don't agree with it, then you don't apply. Ad hominen arguments are logical fallicies. And personally, I find them offensive. I know everyone has a great deal of fun flaming RC but since this is the internet, we don't really know him. I think it's a stretch to say he is "full of hatred."

"University Mission and Philosophy

Mission Statement
Within the cultural and academic soil of liberal arts education, Bob Jones University exists to grow Christlike character that is Scripturally disciplined; others-serving; God-loving; Christ-proclaiming; and focused Above.

Philosophy
Bob Jones University exists as a training center for Christians from around the world. The goal of the administration, faculty, and staff is to equip its students for a lifetime of service to Christ. While the majority of Bob Jones University students enter Christian ministries upon graduation, a large number also become professionals in such secular fields as higher education, medicine, law, and business. Whatever field of study our students choose, they are taught the importance of having Christ at the center of their lives. Biblical values are integrated in every classroom and every other part of the educational process.

The University gives special emphasis to studies in Bible, church administration, missions, pastoral training, theology, history, education, ancient and modern languages, public speaking, drama, music, and literature. Every student enrolled in the University takes a Bible course each semester. This emphasis is rooted in the University’s adherence to the Bible as mankind’s only source of faith and Christian practice. Christian professors and staff members encourage students by precept and example to a lifelong commitment to learning, teaching, and exemplifying spiritual truths. The founder's philosophy that BJU is not here just to teach men and women how to make a living, but more importantly, how to live, remains our focus.

Bob Jones University seeks to maintain high academic standards, an emphasis on culture, and a practical Christian philosophy that is both orthodox and fervent in its evangelistic spirit. Relying upon the strength of God, Bob Jones University continuously strives to be the best school it can be, to the honor and glory of Christ."

 


L:ike I said...that is their own mission statement.....full of lies.
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2007, 04:15:02 PM »
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From their website, here is their mission statement. If you don't agree with it, then you don't apply.


I agree. BUT...and I know this from several former students at BJU...they dont know what they're getting into until theyve already gotten into it.
The University will not even give you a copy of their student handbook, which outlines the various rules regarding dress, acceptable music, requirements, etc. until you've been admitted.
And of course, until recently, once they were students there---they were pretty much screwed if they didnt like it there, because their credits wouldnt transfer anywhere else. (changing now, since they were accredited two months ago)

http://www.troyandjessica.com/bob-jones-university.xml


What might explain RC's feelings on Catholicism...this Wikipedia reference to BJU:
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Criticism of Catholicism and Mormonism
The three Bob Joneses, especially the late Bob Jones, Jr., sharply criticized the Roman Catholic Church. For instance, Jones, Jr. once said that Catholicism was "not another Christian denomination. It is a satanic counterfeit, an ecclesiastic tyranny over the souls of men....It is the old harlot of the book of the Revelation—'the Mother of Harlots.'" All popes, Jones asserted, "are demon possessed." In 2000, then-president Bob Jones III referred, on the University's web page, to Mormons and Catholics as "cults which call themselves Christian."[33] Furthermore, in 1966, BJU awarded an honorary doctorate to the Rev. Ian Paisley, future British MP, leader of the Democratic Unionist Party, and Moderator of the Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster, who has referred to the Pope as a "Roman anti-Christ."

Bob Jones III has argued that the University is not so much anti-Catholic or anti-Mormon as it is opposed to the idea that all men, regardless of religious beliefs, will eventually get to heaven: "Our shame would be in telling people a lie, and thereby letting them go to hell without Christ because we loved their goodwill more than we loved them and their souls…. All religion, including Catholicism, which teaches that salvation is by religious works or church dogma is false. Religion that makes the words of its leader, be he Pope or other, equal with the Word of God is false. Sola Scriptura. From the time of the Reformation onward, it has been understood that there is no commonality between the Bible way, which is justification by faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ, and salvation by works, which the faithful, practicing Catholic embraces."[34]


Annie, your date of 1971 is accurate, but at that time they would only accept MARRIED blacks. It took them a few years before they allowed single blacks.




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Re: Bob Jones University....the bastion of hatred
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2007, 04:21:19 PM »
Annie's source?  ROFLMAO!!!!  IT's MY source you old BJU graduate...and I want to see where that is true...about married blacks...

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2007, 04:31:25 PM »
The rule about married blacks is on Wikipedia, and other places too. Why they felt it was OK to admit married blacks but not single ones is beyond me...At any rate, they only did it because the IRS basically forced them to.

other things:
http://multiracial.com/site/content/view/1023/49/  a 1998 letter explaining their ban on interracial dating

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=461&invol=574   the case BJU took to the Supreme Court



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