Topic: [Athiest Discussion]

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[Tony Light]

I would think that before you would want to discuss it, atheism, you might want to learn how to spell it. Just my opinion.

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[windwalker]

Atheism is for losers, literally.  Stay away from it. Don't take any chances with your soul. No discussion needed.

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[~*A*W*~]

Doesn't look like you even wanted to discuss it. 

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[TheVinylVillager]

Atheism is for losers, literally.  Stay away from it. Don't take any chances with your soul. No discussion needed.

If you "Arent gonna take any chances" you might as well worship all the Gods that are out there...just in case, you know.

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[pobaby]

Although I’m not particularly spiritual, I find it remarkable that some of us believe that they are so very wise that they can flatly state  there is no “intelligent designer”. These same brilliant people could not understand the logic and function and complexity of the simplest living cell, or even a tiny fraction of what scientists have been able to discover of it’s function so far, which is only a minute bit of the real complexity of life. Much less the integration of that cell into the whole organism, and that organism into the surrounding environment and the universe. It seems to me a remarkable conceit, and entirely unwarranted. I can understand someone saying he isn’t religious, or is agnostic, or just isn’t interested, but to flatly ridicule religious belief is not only foolish, but stupid.

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[Bo D]

I can understand someone saying he isn’t religious, or is agnostic, or just isn’t interested, but to flatly ridicule religious belief is not only foolish, but stupid.

 

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[moondance27]

Although I’m not particularly spiritual, I find it remarkable that some of us believe that they are so very wise that they can flatly state  there is no “intelligent designer”. These same brilliant people could not understand the logic and function and complexity of the simplest living cell, or even a tiny fraction of what scientists have been able to discover of it’s function so far, which is only a minute bit of the real complexity of life. Much less the integration of that cell into the whole organism, and that organism into the surrounding environment and the universe. It seems to me a remarkable conceit, and entirely unwarranted. I can understand someone saying he isn’t religious, or is agnostic, or just isn’t interested, but to flatly ridicule religious belief is not only foolish, but stupid.

Carl Sagan, Charles Darwin, Clarence Darrow, Voltaire, Galileo, Kurt Vonnegut, Dr. James Watson, American biologist, (Discoverer of DNA.), Margaret Sanger, Frank Lloyd Wright, Thomas Edison, Freud, Thomas Henry Huxley, English biologist, Burrhus Frederick "B. F." Skinner,Noam Chomsky - Scientist,Benjamin Spock, Bill Gates, Marie Curie, RIchard Dawkins.  Just to name a few of the people who can understand the concept of a cell as well as it's integration of the cell into the whole organism, etc.

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[Bo D]

And of all those brilliant people you named, I don't know of a single one who ever ridiculed anyone for their religious (or lack of) beliefs.

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[libby]

Very well said, Pobaby! Libby

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[pobaby]

Moondance, I’m afraid you are wrong in your list of names. Although they may be bright, accomplished people, except for Chomsky, they could not understand the intricacy of a single cell. That’s they may be able to, it the entire structure and function were known. However, it isn’t, far from it. Think about it. Do you believe that any of this illustrious group, or all of them together, even knowing what we know of DNA, RNA, ribosomes and mitochondria etc, given the most advanced lab and every resource and technology available, could manufacture a living cell? The answer is, of course not. We know only a tiny bit of the entire structure and function of the cell. And even if they were smart enough to make a cell, do you think it would be alive?

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[iwalkalone]

Although I’m not particularly spiritual, I find it remarkable that some of us believe that they are so very wise that they can flatly state  there is no “intelligent designer”. These same brilliant people could not understand the logic and function and complexity of the simplest living cell, or even a tiny fraction of what scientists have been able to discover of it’s function so far, which is only a minute bit of the real complexity of life. Much less the integration of that cell into the whole organism, and that organism into the surrounding environment and the universe. It seems to me a remarkable conceit, and entirely unwarranted. I can understand someone saying he isn’t religious, or is agnostic, or just isn’t interested, but to flatly ridicule religious belief is not only foolish, but stupid.

I won't ridicule anyone for their religious convictions, but in my case, I'm a "show me the proof" type of person. I need concrete evidence of an intelligent designer in order to believe he/she/it exists. Just because we don't currently understand how everything came about, and how it all fits together, doesn't mean we won't understand it in a thousand years, or a million (if we're still here).

Certain peoples in the South Pacific once thought derelict aircraft were manifestations of the gods. (Look up "cargo cult) They couldn't explain the crafts' complexity otherwise. We all know they weren't built by supernatural forces. That's how I look at the intricacies of life. We're just not at the technological level yet where we can know how at all comes together.

We're getting there, though. Sagan performed experiments in which he was able to recreate some of the basic building blocks of life by introducing electrical current into a flask containing the elements of the earth's primordial atmosphere. This is a long way way from having something alive crawl out of the container, but it was still a very significant event.

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[moondance27]

Moondance, I’m afraid you are wrong in your list of names. Although they may be bright, accomplished people, except for Chomsky, they could not understand the intricacy of a single cell. That’s they may be able to, it the entire structure and function were known. However, it isn’t, far from it. Think about it. Do you believe that any of this illustrious group, or all of them together, even knowing what we know of DNA, RNA, ribosomes and mitochondria etc, given the most advanced lab and every resource and technology available, could manufacture a living cell? The answer is, of course not. We know only a tiny bit of the entire structure and function of the cell. And even if they were smart enough to make a cell, do you think it would be alive?

PObaby...go back and read the list....evidently you're having trouble reading today.....the man who discovered DNA is on that list....I think he has your capacity to understand cells and their functions better than you do.

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[pobaby]

Moondance, I'm not having any trouble reading today, but you might be having difficulty thinking. No doubt Mr. Watson would have a better concept than I about the structure and function of the cell. At least I hope he would, since that's his area of expertise. However, I doubt he has the arrogance to believe that he knows exactly how the cell functions. No one does, and no one knows how the part integrates into the whole. Tattoo is right, perhaps knowledge will expand to the point that the mystery of life will be understood. But I doubt it. And if it should be, the formation of the earth, and the universe, will never be understood. Scientists of today come up with their goofy theories as though they are really bright. And perhaps they are. But not one of them is a millionth as bright as a single cell. As with many things, the more you learn, the more you realize how little you know.

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[~*A*W*~]

I know everything. She's 6'1,long strawberry blonde hair,Green eyes,......

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